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Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne May 27, 2016 16:04:02 GMT

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It seems that McLaren have indicated they are likely to drop Jenson Button and replace him with Stoffel Vandoorne next season. Button will be out of contract at the end of the year and Vandoorne (McLaren's reserve driver) is currently one of the hottest prospects without a race seat.

Ron Dennis the McLaren chairman has said that the 24-year-old Belgian is "an integral part of McLaren-Honda's future". Two-time world champion Fernando Alonso has a contract with McLaren to the end of 2017 therefore Button and Vandoorne must be considered in competition for the remaining seat.

Dennis has said McLaren are "not yet ready to commit or communicate" on their 2017 line-up, but added: "You may rest assured that Stoffel is not for sale."

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Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne May 27, 2016 17:30:07 GMT

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In my opinion, Vandoorne gave a good account of himself at his debut appearance earlier in the year.
I wouldn't say Jenson is washed-up, but does he still have the will to succeed after spending so many seasons in F1? Plus, in general, drivers with several seasons experience in F1 don't seem to have the same level of motivation as new drivers. In their favour they do have superior race craft and consistency though.
I like to see the young chargers being given opportunities in top teams. OK, McLaren's car/engine combination isn't the best at the moment, but they will be back at the top in the future.

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Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne May 27, 2016 19:01:23 GMT via mobile

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Apparently there is still talk of Williams wanting JB. I guess it will depend on both another team wanting him and whether he considers the team a serious option.

I too like the idea of younger drivers being given a chance althoigh it seems it is not just talent but money you need to bring to the team these days!

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Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne Jun 7, 2016 12:27:39 GMT

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McLaren's racing director Eric Boullier has said there has been no discussion with its drivers regarding the team's line-up for the 2017 Formula 1 season and that the team is in a comfortable position, with no rush to decide on next year's line-up.

Fernando Alonso's contract means the Spaniard is set to stay beyond this season, but his teammate has yet to be named. Jenson Button's contract expires at the end of this season and he has been linked with a possible move back to Williams in 2017.

McLaren also has Stoffel Vandoorne on its books with the Belgian spending 2016 competing in Japan's Super Formula after the team decided to retain Button for the current season.

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Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne Jun 8, 2016 16:57:47 GMT

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I wonder if Alonso has a performance get-out clause written into his contract?
No doubt he will enjoy the challenge of making McLaren into a top team, but will he get fed up before then?
You can't help but feel he has the ability to have been world champion more than twice, but has been adversely affected by poor career choices.

Lee Administrator Posts: 3,960	Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne Jun 9, 2016 6:52:50 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Lee on Jun 9, 2016 6:52:50 GMT I too wondered about that, replacing button and then Alonso walking wouldn't be good. Alonso's career has been a bit out of sync since he walked out of McLaren.
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Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne Jun 21, 2016 14:53:04 GMT

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Claire Williams, Deputy Team Prinicpal at Williams Martini Racing has said that Jenson Button would be an attractive proposition for any team if he becomes available.

Many feel that McLaren will bring in young driver Stoffel Vandoorne to replace Button for 2017, JB will then need to decide whether he is happy to drive for another team, or retire from the sport altogether.

If he founf himself without a seat at McLaren it is likely plenty of offers would come his way and Claire Williams has commented that signing Button would certainly be an enticing proposition worth considering.

Williams are currently deciding whether to keep their existing line-up, assuming thats an option as both their current drivers will be out of contract at the end of the year and are therefore weighing up all options before making any final decisions.

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Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne Aug 2, 2016 11:57:50 GMT

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It is understood that Williams have had preliminary discussions with Jenson Button about a deal for 2017 but they have not reached an advanced stage yet. Williams has said they would love Button on board, but there are also other candidates for a seat next year and therefore will not wait for too long for Jenson Button to decide if he wants to join the team.

Williams has an option on Valtteri Bottas and is said to also be interested in Sergio Perez if he was able to get out of his Force India contract. Felipe Nasr could also be an option as could development driver Lance Stroll on the back of his strong F3 campaign this season.
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Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne Aug 4, 2016 12:27:39 GMT

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If I were McLaren I'd go Vandoorne. He looks fast and a good new future driver. Wiliams should get Perez with his pace and sponsorship, do them good and maybe Button as their feedback/development driver who still has pace.

Its a crying shame that someone like Alonso is not in a car duking it out with LH and Vettel etc. When he retires from F1 he will feel last couple of years were in the wilderness. He must have hoped/assumed McLaren Honda would be on the money by now.

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Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne Sept 2, 2016 8:38:00 GMT

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Although at first glance the announcement that Felipe Massa is quitting F1 appears to have opened the door for Jenson Button to return to Williams, some suggesting otherwise.

Williams had said earlier in the season that the 2009 World Champion was an “attractive” option for next year, with the championship embracing a host of new technical regulations. However maybe they have changed their opinion.

According to some reports Williams have tired of Button’s dithering over his future and are looking to take other options, with an insider quoted as saying “If he had been banging the doors down then it might have worked,” “But that’s not been the case.”

Button is still maintaining that his future remains undecided.

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Jay83 Super Member Posts: 349	Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne Sept 2, 2016 10:36:50 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jay83 on Sept 2, 2016 10:36:50 GMT I can see Button being forced to choose retirement.

Lee Administrator Posts: 3,960	Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne Sept 2, 2016 12:08:56 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Lee on Sept 2, 2016 12:08:56 GMT Given that Stoffel Vandoorne has hardly stormed the Super Formula Championship so far this year I wonder how certain McLaren are that he is indeed the future?
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mj911 Super Member Posts: 253	Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne Sept 2, 2016 13:04:26 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mj911 on Sept 2, 2016 13:04:26 GMT must admit JB putting the McLaren on 9th spot on the grid at Spa was pretty impressive! shame he got rear ended and taken out by a 'young charger' in Pascal Wehrlein ...oh the irony.

ad16sport God Posts: 541	Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne Sept 3, 2016 15:22:37 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ad16sport on Sept 3, 2016 15:22:37 GMT Jenson taking a backseat for 2017 but may return in 2018 with Mclaren after agreeing a new 2yr deal with the team. Stoffel Vandoorne will race with team mate Alonso for the 2017 season.

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Jenson Button / Stoffel Vandoorne Sept 4, 2016 9:59:28 GMT Jay83 likes this

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Could this be the end of Jenson racing in F1?
Even though Ron Dennis claims the contract to retain Button for 2017 and 2018 is "innovative and creative", Button simply seems to have been relegated to the role of test driver. I can't see Jenson returning to a race seat in 2018. Bear in mind that he will be 38 years old by then, and he'll be race-rusty from a one year sabbatical.
Yes, he'll be performing simulator work during that next year, but it's not the same as being on-track with the other drivers.

Going forward (I hate that expression!), Vandoorne has a multi-year contract in place, so he should be a certainty for 2018. I think the second seat will be up for grabs as Alonso is known to be disillusioned with the current breed of F1 cars, therefore, I can't see him renewing his contract with McLaren.

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