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2016 - Baku Jun 14, 2016 14:24:39 GMT

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This weekend (17-19 June) will see Formula 1's first visit to the new Baku circuit in Azerbaijan. The 3.7-mile circuit claims to be the fastest street circuit on the calendar. The layout designed by F1 track architect Hermann Tilke will see the drivers negotiating parts of the old city, passing many of the capitals landmarks before the circuit opens up along the waterfront, apparently the cars will be able to reach 200mph along this stretch!

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2016 - Baku Jun 15, 2016 10:19:43 GMT

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It seems a few of the Formula 1 drivers are a little unsure of the new circuit and how much they will enjoy this weekend’s inaugural grand prix on the Baku F1 circuit. The new circuit has been described as an ultra high speed street layout including an exciting, ultra-narrow run past the old city walls.

Lewis Hamilton is reported as saying “It has a very long straight,” “Street circuit? I think Monaco is a street circuit. It (Baku) is so wide in some places — I don’t know why they do circuits like this. But I hope it’s exciting.”

Sebastian Vettel has apparently tried the layout in the simulator and Felipe Massa feels that it will suit the cars with the most powerful engines as top speeds will rival those seen at Spa-Francorchamps and even Monza.

I guess we will have to just wait and see!

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2016 - Baku Jun 15, 2016 15:18:29 GMT

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It will be interesting to see what this circuit is like for racing.
As a rule, I quite like street circuits, but I think that overtaking needs to be possible in at least two places.
The high speed straight of this circuit should also add an extra element of interest that most street circuits don't have.

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2016 - Baku Jun 16, 2016 15:03:42 GMT

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Apparently a few of the drivers are questioning the safety / run off areas at the new circuit, with Button being the first to openly question it. Unlike Monaco, the new circuit is intended to be allow for much higher speeds yet Button points out that Turn 3, Turn 7 and Turn 14 don't have any run-off at all.

Nico Rosberg has said he was likewise concerned about the safety features of the new venue.

It does look a bit tight in places.

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Andrew 2.8i God Self confessed car geek! Posts: 1,813	2016 - Baku Jun 16, 2016 17:33:53 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Andrew 2.8i on Jun 16, 2016 17:33:53 GMT The section of the circuit shown in the photo looks like it might be a challenge for the drivers.

Lee Administrator Posts: 3,960	2016 - Baku Jun 16, 2016 18:07:55 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Lee on Jun 16, 2016 18:07:55 GMT It will be interesting to see how practice goes tommorrow! Should be a decent weekend for sport.
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2016 - Baku Jun 17, 2016 11:51:29 GMT

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Full results from First Practice earlier today - best first practice of the season for McLaren, experience maybe?
No surprises on the top few though!

1 - Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes - 1:46.435 23
2 - Nico Rosberg - Mercedes - 1:46.812 +0.377s 32
3 - Valtteri Bottas - Williams Mercedes - 1:47.096 +0.661s 34
4 - Fernando Alonso - McLaren Honda - 1:47.989 +1.554s 21
5 - Sebastian Vettel - Ferrari - 1:48.627 +2.192s 26
6 - Sergio Perez - Force India Mercedes - 1:48.922 +2.487s 17
7 - Jenson Button - McLaren Honda - 1:49.019 +2.584s 21
8 - Felipe Massa - Williams Mercedes - 1:49.125 +2.690s 22
9 - Carlos Sainz - Toro Rosso Ferrari - 1:49.267 +2.832s 16
10 - Nico Hulkenberg - Force India Mercedes - 1:49.301 +2.866s 27
11 - Romain Grosjean - Haas Ferrari - 1:49.611 +3.176s 20
12 - Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari - 1:49.635 +3.200s 16
13 - Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer - 1:49.778 +3.343s 17
14 - Esteban Gutierrez - Haas Ferrari - 1:50.167 +3.732s 25
15 - Marcus Ericsson - Sauber Ferrari - 1:50.473 +4.038s 18
16 - Max Verstappen - Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer - 1:50.485 +4.050s 7
17 - Daniil Kvyat - Toro Rosso Ferrari - 1:50.551 +4.116s 19
18 - Jolyon Palmer - Renault - 1:50.910 +4.475s 25
19 - Kevin Magnussen - Renault - 1:50.939 +4.504s 27
20 - Pascal Wehrlein - MRT Mercedes - 1:51.219 +4.784s 24
21 - Felipe Nasr - Sauber Ferrari - 1:51.771 +5.336s 11
22 - Rio Haryanto - MRT Mercedes - 1:51.925 +5.490s 28

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2016 - Baku Jun 17, 2016 12:08:22 GMT

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A few issues with the kerbs / fixings at the new circuit.

The GP2 qualifying session was postponed due to kerb problems, the session was red-flagged a minute after it had begun so that FIA race director Charlie Whiting could carry out an inspection of the kerbs following the Formula 1 practice session. The organisers then announced that the session was being abandoned so that work could be carried out

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2016 - Baku Jun 17, 2016 17:11:22 GMT Lee likes this

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just watching practice now, some of the turns/bends are very tight if there are any incidents nothing will get past, and the run offs i do see the drivers concerns.

I do like street circuits and Baku looks good Although it does kind of remind me of a formula e circuit!

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2016 - Baku Jun 18, 2016 10:53:13 GMT

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It does seem a bit odd all very enclosed and quite tight and then a seriuosly long straight!
Could be interesting especially given its new to all.

Your probably right about Formula E but then maybe thats just the nature of these new inner city circuits.

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2016 - Baku Jun 18, 2016 11:15:34 GMT

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I watched yesterday's practice session, and the point was made in the commentary that there are few places that stranded/crashed cars can be recovered to. If there are any incidents on these sections of track, it could result in a lengthy safety car period.

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2016 - Baku Jun 18, 2016 14:45:52 GMT

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Rosberg is on pole with Hamilton down in 10th place. It's stating the obvious, but Nico really needs to get his championship aspirations back on track by winning this race.
I notice that Button is, again, languishing near the back of the grid. Is this a sign that his motivation has gone and he will be unlikely to be racing next year?

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Provisional Grid

1 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 
2 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull
3 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari
4 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari
5 Felipe Massa Williams
6 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso
7 Sergio Perez Force India
8 Valtteri Bottas Williams
9 Max Verstappen Red Bull
10 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
11 Romain Grosjean Haas
12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India
13 Carlos Sainz Jnr Toro Rosso
14 Fernando Alonso McLaren
15 Esteban Gutierrez Haas
16 Felipe Nasr Sauber
17 Rio Haryanto Manor
18 Pascal Wehrlein Manor
19 Jenson Button McLaren
20 Marcus Ericsson Sauber
21 Kevin Magnussen Renault
22 Jolyon Palmer Renault

Surprised JB is so far back as he seemed pretty reasonable during practice. As you say this is an important one for Rosberg, he needs to make the most of the situation.

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ad16sport God Posts: 541	2016 - Baku Jun 19, 2016 14:54:55 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ad16sport on Jun 19, 2016 14:54:55 GMT 1st Rosberg 2nd Vettel 3rd Perez well needed win for Nico,

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2016 - Baku Jun 19, 2016 16:16:02 GMT

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Saw the interview with LH, back to being downbeat again.
Nico as you say needed a good result to get his championship back on track, the points were obviously needed but also to show Mercedes he is up to the job!

Perez is doing himself no harm at the moment, it also shows that a career does not always have to be over if things don't go quite to plan.

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